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google事件的震撼
google事件的震撼

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google这件事对我震动很大，这么大的公司这么高调的举动实在不寻常，我在twitter上连着写了几个感想，这里整理出来。

1. 认为google讲道义，这种态度是一厢情愿，有戏剧效果，但分析上走不远。这件事的重点在于为什么中国能让在世界任何角落都钱途光明简直就是互联网代名词的google居然觉得无利可图？背靠数亿使用中文的网民，现在赚不了大钱没关系，但对未来赚钱的前景竟然都如此悲观，这实在是耐人寻味。

2. 如果一个凡事讲道义的人对你不理不睬，没什么，他有可能就是假清高，比如某些美国政客；但一个想从你身上赚钱的人都掉头而去，那只能说明你没救了，因为他本应该是世界上最想和你亲近的人。所以我希望看到google留下，否则后果太严重，信号太强烈。从google的股价有多高就知道市场认为这公司有多重要，它确实代表了未来的方向。而且鉴于它和各行业切不断的联系，它一旦完全退出中国，可能引起外资的连锁反应甚至雪崩，尤其是互联网产业，这对任何人都没有好处，所以此时我只能希望这盘棋对局的多方不要把棋下死了。

3. 到底是什么突然让这么大的公司这么高调？黑客攻击？那对google的技术不算鸟事；人权斗士的信箱？别逗了，就算美国总部也别假装外宾；哥本哈根？那本来就是个闹剧，中国的表现我并没觉得比美国可笑多少，虽然演技更差一些。这些都是借口，讲给媒体听的，肯定是经济利益的基本面动摇了，现在赚不到钱不要紧，觉得未来也玄了才要命。

4. 是什么原因我们外人不能知道详细，但google这一举动，无论最后结果如何，都宣告了中国的互联网发展前景连“绝对老大”都想知难而退了。想想上一回我们说“别了，司徒雷登”之后发生的种种，我××××真想抱着大腿让它留下啊。

还有几句调侃的。

5. 如果没有google, 我很好奇国内搞科研的人怎么搜索研究文献？那么多大学生研究生各种教授怎么抄论文啊？都局域网了不很快大家都抄成一样得了嘛？想到这个我都笑了，哈。

6. 没有了google, 难道让我用英语大字不识一个汉语只认识“女大学生”的百度么？



最后，既然是美国总部的决定，希望美国的投资人能做出反应让google三思，如果美国的市场也没啥反应的话，那总的来说人们对中国市场的未来预期是悲观的。


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附谷歌博客原文
　　A new approach to China
　　1/12/2010 03:00:00 PM
　　Like many other well-known organizations, we face cyber attacks ofvarying degrees on a regular basis. In mid-December, we detected ahighly sophisticated and targeted attack on our corporateinfrastructure originating from China that resulted in the theft ofintellectual property from Google. However, it soon became clear thatwhat at first appeared to be solely a security incident--albeit asignificant one--was something quite different.First,this attack was not just on Google. As part of our investigation wehave discovered that at least twenty other large companies from a widerange of businesses--including the Internet, finance, technology, mediaand chemical sectors--have been similarly targeted. We are currently inthe process of notifying those companies, and we are also working withthe relevant U.S. authorities.Second, we have evidence tosuggest that a primary goal of the attackers was accessing the Gmailaccounts of Chinese human rights activists. Based on our investigationto date we believe their attack did not achieve that objective. Onlytwo Gmail accounts appear to have been accessed, and that activity waslimited to account information (such as the date the account wascreated) and subject line, rather than the content of emails themselves.Third,as part of this investigation but independent of the attack on Google,we have discovered that the accounts of dozens of U.S.-, China- andEurope-based Gmail users who are advocates of human rights in Chinaappear to have been routinely accessed by third parties. These accountshave not been accessed through any security breach at Google, but mostlikely via phishing scams or malware placed on the users' computers.Wehave already used information gained from this attack to makeinfrastructure and architectural improvements that enhance security forGoogle and for our users. In terms of individual users, we would advisepeople to deploy reputable anti-virus and anti-spyware programs ontheir computers, to install patches for their operating systems and toupdate their web browsers. Always be cautious when clicking on linksappearing in instant messages and emails, or when asked to sharepersonal information like passwords online. You can read more here about our cyber-security recommendations. People wanting to learn moreabout these kinds of attacks can read this U.S. government report (PDF), Nart Villeneuve's blog and this presentation on the GhostNet spying incident.Wehave taken the unusual step of sharing information about these attackswith a broad audience not just because of the security and human rightsimplications of what we have unearthed, but also because thisinformation goes to the heart of a much bigger global debate aboutfreedom of speech. In the last two decades, China's economic reformprograms and its citizens' entrepreneurial flair have lifted hundredsof millions of Chinese people out of poverty. Indeed, this great nationis at the heart of much economic progress and development in the worldtoday.We launched Google.cn in January 2006 in the belief thatthe benefits of increased access to information for people in China anda more open Internet outweighed our discomfort in agreeing to censorsome results. At the time we made clear that "we will carefully monitor conditions in China, including new lawsand other restrictions on our services. If we determine that we areunable to achieve the objectives outlined we will not hesitate toreconsider our approach to China."These attacks and thesurveillance they have uncovered--combined with the attempts over thepast year to further limit free speech on the web--have led us toconclude that we should review the feasibility of our businessoperations in China. We have decided we are no longer willing tocontinue censoring our results on Google.cn, and so over the next fewweeks we will be discussing with the Chinese government the basis onwhich we could operate an unfiltered search engine within the law, ifat all. We recognize that this may well mean having to shut downGoogle.cn, and potentially our offices in China.The decision toreview our business operations in China has been incredibly hard, andwe know that it will have potentially far-reaching consequences. Wewant to make clear that this move was driven by our executives in theUnited States, without the knowledge or involvement of our employees inChina who have worked incredibly hard to make Google.cn the success itis today. We are committed to working responsibly to resolve the verydifficult issues raised.Posted by David Drummond, SVP, Corporate Development and Chief Legal Officer

[茶蘼枝头]

算了，说太多还是不安全的，还是接着沉默啊。。。。。

[ufoliji]

现在坐等黄巢、李自成出现。。。

[Hellophilip]

没了gmail，CCTV5天下足球的邮箱就要换了。

[jay_jolin]

没了Google，我们英语专业的都得撞墙去···

[tina糖VIP]

http://goojje.com/
谷哥走了，中国的谷姐出面了，谷哥再见

[夜莺声声]

不懂，走了就走了吧，用必应吧。。。

[戴建国]

?????^^^^^

[唐古拉]

谷歌走不了，赶都赶不走

[molvoe]

Google对某些影响还蛮大的

[松岛蜂&舞腾狼]

恩。。。影响不大。。。详见俺头像

[Alicia77]

竞争的吧？百度深入人心。

[Alicia77]

原来还有谷姐。。图标还包含百度。。太强悍了

[hm1520]

google在中国根本干不过百度啊

[香酥小龙虾]

Google就是贱，在天朝做二奶还要挑三拣四。。。

[遠颺]

据说起因是老胡的儿子

[香酥小龙虾]

作者: 遠颺

胡海峰在XXXX（某非洲国家）贪污那个？其实新浪也报道了。。。不过后来被和谐了。。。

[61073362]

我们又不能改变什么啊

[61073362]

嘿嘿。。。随便
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